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Автор:  pawol [ Сб: 08 окт 2016 21:27 ]
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At the moment the code is practically rewritten by me, timings are changed and some hardware changes are issued also. Since now my releases
will be called "2nd ChancePI" to distinguish from base project called "Chance PI"

I have to point out that every my software release has roots in the project called ChancePI/AndyF.

Thank you AndyF for you hard work.


2nd ChancePI v001
http://chomikuj.pl/dantech/2nd+ChancePI

Автор:  vlaser [ Ср: 12 окт 2016 9:47 ]
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Wideo detektora.

Автор:  pawol [ Чт: 13 окт 2016 22:32 ]
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Hi,
Detection range comparison.

2nd Chance PI versus Garret ACE 250 !

Part 1
https://youtu.be/7vIdAO51E_c

Part 2
https://youtu.be/uYxHxEehncY

2nd ChancePI has the range better than ACE 250 about 25-30%

I have set on 2nd Chance PI 3 bar signal masking. This is useful barrier to prevent unwanted signals and discrimination need this signal level to work well.
On the ACE 250 I have set sensitivity -2. This is also optimal setting to avoid unwanted signals.

I do not want to sets fictive and useless detection range


By the way I have to say that discrimination is more accurate in the 2nd Chance PI. Maybe I shall do next comparison test

Tested objects
- Gold ring
- silver ring
- beer bottle cap
- aluminium square 10x10 mm from beer can wall
- present pistol bullet
- bullet shell - mauser from 1901 and present
- one US cent coin
- polish old communist 50 gr aluminum coin
- polish present 2 gr coin
- polish present 1 gr coin
- present threaded brass pipe joint
etc...

Of course 2nd ChancePI has huge advantage - static work

Автор:  vlaser [ Пт: 14 окт 2016 7:54 ]
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Musimy test na selekcji i dyskryminacji metali.
Нужен тест на селекцию и дискриминацию металлов.

Автор:  pawol [ Пт: 14 окт 2016 20:53 ]
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v002
http://chomikuj.pl/dantech/2nd+ChancePI

Автор:  vlaser [ Сб: 15 окт 2016 4:58 ]
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???

Автор:  pawol [ Сб: 15 окт 2016 9:44 ]
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What does it mean?
You should look onto firmware subfolder if you are looking for v002

Автор:  pawol [ Сб: 15 окт 2016 22:42 ]
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v003

Автор:  vlaser [ Пн: 17 окт 2016 22:35 ]
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Musimy film testowy dyskryminacji i metali Selets.

Автор:  pawol [ Пн: 17 окт 2016 23:33 ]
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Unfortunatelly at the moment I have not free time to play with movies


v004
A few new features:
- coil delay auto measurement mode
- 12 timing profiles covering 100 - 1200 pulses per second with proper main pulse width to keep the same power consumption in the entire pps range.
There are also half power profiles.

Support for ATmega8 is completly finished because of too small flash memory size

Автор:  pawol [ Вт: 18 окт 2016 23:00 ]
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v005
Further improvements features issued in the v004

Wide range of timing profiles (regarding frequency )in the v004 is completly useless. The same with half power profiles. I have noticed huge VDI instability.
In the v005 only 3 profiles 100,200 and 400Hz with constant pulse width 120us are issued. Power consumption varies according to the profile. The higher frequency the more power consumed. Maximum power consumption is 130mA. Low frequency can be used as eco power mode

Автор:  pawol [ Пт: 21 окт 2016 23:26 ]
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v006 is released

Автор:  pawol [ Сб: 22 окт 2016 16:01 ]
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Re-download v006 again, please. There was small bug

Автор:  pawol [ Вс: 23 окт 2016 1:18 ]
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v007 released

Автор:  Александр23.83 [ Пн: 24 окт 2016 1:58 ]
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То есть сама схема прибора полностью повторяет ChancePI Вы переписали программную часть улучшив показатели прибора, я правильно понимаю?

Автор:  pawol [ Пн: 24 окт 2016 8:57 ]
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This project has roots in the ChancePi by Fandy. A lot of harware is similar (rather simpler than predecessor) but software was re-written. Some old ideas/solutions are still in use

Автор:  klym [ Пн: 24 окт 2016 17:28 ]
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Ваш прибор стал без каскада транзисторов 9, 5, 6, но зачем V--Up и преобразователь U1 нужен?

Your device has become without a cascade of transistors 9, 5, 6, but why V - Up and U1 converter needed?

Автор:  pawol [ Пн: 24 окт 2016 17:57 ]
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U1 has nothing common with lacking Q6, Q5, etc.
U1 is negative supply voltage generator for opamp

Автор:  klym [ Вт: 25 окт 2016 9:55 ]
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1. -Up использовалось также для коллектора Q5.
2. Да, -Up -V нужно для NE5534.

1. -Up also used to Q5 collector.
2. Yes, -Up -V need for NE5534.

Автор:  pawol [ Вт: 25 окт 2016 12:14 ]
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The question is: what is the problem ?

Автор:  klym [ Вт: 25 окт 2016 18:33 ]
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Нет вопросов и никаких проблем.
No questions and no problems.

Автор:  pawol [ Вт: 25 окт 2016 22:45 ]
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v008 is available

Автор:  pawol [ Ср: 26 окт 2016 23:35 ]
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v009 available

Автор:  pawol [ Пт: 28 окт 2016 20:48 ]
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v012 is available

Because of question from users I have to clarify a little bit...
Entire Q6 solution was a bit "fictious" in the original Chance PI. It did not work properly in fact and
did nothing usefull instead of additional and unwanted 100mA power drain
So I do not drive Q6 in the 2nd Chance and I have changed the way of coil driving.
For instance original Q6 solution drains 180mA but my solution drains 80mA.
Is there any difference ?
Like I said Q6 solution was not succesfull
Should not be difference if Q6 circuit is placed or removed from PCB when using my software.
In my software Q6 is driven as inactive whole time. The ICL7660/LT1054
is enabled whole time also.

So, simplifying, my release should be backward compatible. I do not test it at all.
For purity reasons I have removed Q6 circuit from my pcb completly and new schematic diagram and pcb project do not include one also.

By the way,a few things good to know about 2nd Chance PI:
- OK button pressed whilst starting restores default settings
- Menu button pressed whilst starting goes direcly into menu without battery test.
It can be usefull when you set battery U min level higher than voltage battery you have.
Normally you will see "low battery" prompt at start in that case. So use this method.
- Default settings are proper in my case. Everyone should test the device and enter own settings

Автор:  pawol [ Пт: 28 окт 2016 23:30 ]
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https://youtu.be/PDnZ3_BuyM0

Quick metal discrimination test

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